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17th-Mar-2010 09:18 pm
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Do five people even read this journal anymore?! Whatever, who cares, here is something I lifted off my friends list:

The FIRST FIVE HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE to comment in this post get to request a DOODLE of any character of their choosing. In return they HAVE TO POST this in their journal, regardless of ability whatever I don't really give a shit.

I am trying to improve my drawing through doing it a lot! Trying. I have a lot of work on my plate right now though and I don't structure my time well. I need to work on that.

Anyway, right now I'm trying to get a comic going for that reason. Also because I've been trying to get it going for years... I've had a lot of false starts, but this time I've actually made progress, so... we'll see. I think I'm going to make myself get through the first chapter before I start posting it on the interwebs, as a test of commitment. But then... to the interwebs it will go! And we'll see what happens then.

I have minimal faith in my own abilities, as always. But my companion has been helping me with the flow of the comic (dialogue comes out my ears and it's easy to scribble faces to go with it, but the pacing is something I'm less sure of, and he's been a great help in figuring that out) so I'm feeling okay about it right now.

That, and he and I just read the first volume of The Walking Dead together over the past few days and... wow. This is a popular printed comic? It was awful!

Okay, not AWFUL. But really, really mediocre for the following reasons which I will share with you though you did not request it:

-You feel no engagement with the characters whatsoever. All the men feel the same and all the women feel the same. And when he tries to add some extra qualities to people, it feels extremely forced/transparent.

-The plot lumbers. In fact, I'm not even sure what the plot is. It just kind of jumps from event to event. This might be less problematic were the characters more interesting--it's supposed to be character-driven, according to the reviews--but they just aren't there, so the lack of plot becomes glaringly obvious.

-It's ridiculous in a bad way. Sharp-shooting 7-year-old? Yeah, all right, whatever. And don't get me started about the ridiculous gender roles. (Despite being a [closeted] feminist, you know I wouldn't throw down the term 'gender roles' willy-nilly. In this case, however... Even my companion noticed how ridiculous it was--he even mentioned it without my having said anything--and if you know him, you know he's pretty far from being a feminist [we fight about it]. Yet even he said "wow, this is stupidly sexist." I was very proud of him.) Women just bitch and do laundry and scream and let men rescue them from the zombies...

-It's zombie-centered... but they are the shittiest zombies ever. Often they just kind of chill out and wait for you to kill them. It... it really takes away from the tension.

-Also, the pacing is way off (part of what is making me take a second look at my own work). Rather than work at building any tension (isn't tension the point of a zombie scenario?), zombies are just kind of plopped in and out, and then they spend pages and pages talking about what they're about to do. In particular, the main character is fond of addressing the rest of them and dumping all the practical details on the reader at once. It's awful.

I could go on! The point is that this is a massively popular published work. So, maybe I need to stop being so hard on myself?

Finally.... I miss being a troll scholar. That was the best thesis ever.
18th-Mar-2010 05:15 am (UTC)
I'm still reading your stuff. Sure, I'll get a doodle going.
18th-Mar-2010 02:52 pm (UTC)
18th-Mar-2010 08:09 pm (UTC)
A snow ninja.
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18th-Mar-2010 02:52 pm (UTC)

Geez, that doesn't sound good.
18th-Mar-2010 06:20 am (UTC)
OH MAN I WOULD LIKE A DOODLE. I don't know what character though :(
18th-Mar-2010 06:20 am (UTC)
Also my "thesis" is about CHILDREN'S GAMES OF MAKE-BELIEVE, so I am currently a PRETEND SCHOLAR. Which is sort of excellent now that I think about it!
18th-Mar-2010 02:56 pm (UTC)
THAT SOUNDS GREAT! It helps so much to have a sweet topic while you're in the process of toiling over your thesis... Those hours of panicked writing would have gone much less smoothly had I not spent about half of them giggling over the fact that I was using the word(?) "n00b" in a scholarly context.

No ideas for a doodle?! I WILL THINK OF SOMETHING THEN. Unless you think of something in the meantime, in which case LET ME KNOW!
18th-Mar-2010 11:55 am (UTC)
Yeah, Walking Dead doesn't really get good until...volume 4? I don't know. I like it (or at least I'm willing to cut it a lot of slack) because it does a fine job of being a believable (in a very strained sense of the term) zombie comic. Plus they are making a live action series of it for like AMC or one of those networks with the acronyms that I can't ever remember. It could be pretty badass.

And sure, give me a doodle. In return, I shall do NOTHING OF THE SORT.
18th-Mar-2010 03:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah? We thought that might be the case behind its popularity. That it gets better later. But we decided we were too lazy/cheap to find out!

Believable, eh? I didn't find it (at least in the first volume! maybe you meant later?) to be believable just because I didn't think any real humans would act the way those ones were acting. THEN AGAIN, I am not exactly a zombie-stuff fan, so I am also not the target audience / maybe a little uneducated about how these zombie things generally go!

As a TV series, it would probably still be better than the majority of what's on TV, though. So I can get behind that!

18th-Mar-2010 05:28 pm (UTC)
I have no idea! Something cool, I hope.
18th-Mar-2010 02:25 pm (UTC)
I'm still around! Not sure if you...actually remember who I am anymore, it's probably been like 6 years since we've talked.

That's a shame about The Walking Dead. I haven't read it, but was planning to at some point because the art was kinda nice.
18th-Mar-2010 03:15 pm (UTC)

Well, my esteemed colleague above says it gets good around volume 4, so who knows! I could be jumping the gun with my criticism. I haven't read beyond the first volume... Perhaps it's just a shaky start. Or I'm just a critical jerk.

Opinions are definitely divided! I skimmed through some reviews after finishing... There's some people who seem to agree with me, but a lot more who seem to think it's fantastic.

Anyway, I guess you earn a doodle! WHAT DO YOU WANT?
22nd-Mar-2010 04:56 am (UTC)
Yaaaaaaaay in that case I don't feel like a creepy stalker :D

I've been good! Super crazy busy because I'm on my last semester of college, but good.

I'll give the walking dead a shot if they ever get it at my local library I suppose. I've got a waiting list of comics that are good right from the start that I have to spend my actual money on :D. I don't put a lot of stock in reviews of comics - there are waaaaay too many fanboys and girls with terrible terrible taste out there.

Aaaaaaand um...I'd like some sort of robot. Everyone likes robots, right? Well, not Luddites...or the Amish...or those people who think they're going to rise up and destroy us...but everyone else!
19th-Mar-2010 02:10 am (UTC)
Let me know if Walking Dead improves! If you continue reading it. I have people making noises at me along the lines of "IT'S ZOMBIES. YOU LIKE ZOMBIES DON'T YOU," but I've yet to pick it up. I may just read it for train-wrecky reasons now.

If you ever feel like posting more theses of this sort, I would not be unhappy.

And I too would like to request a doodle, if you're still taking them. I . . . may be able to offer a doodle in return, if my brain proves willing to cooperate.
19th-Mar-2010 01:49 pm (UTC)
Let me know what you think of it, if you do read it!! It IS awfully popular. Maybe I'm missing the point. But I just can't get over how flimsy and stupid all the characters are.

SURE!! DOODLES FOR ALL!! What would you like?
19th-Mar-2010 03:34 pm (UTC)
Will do! Especially since I can READ IT FOR FREE from the library. Not sure I'd be willing to pay money for that privilege.

HUH. LET ME THINK. Well, I'll try to make it easy on you by providing three options:

1) Charles Foster Ofdensen (Metalocalypse)
2) Maka Albarn (Soul Eater)
3) A Dumbo octopus

And what would you like in return?
25th-Mar-2010 02:37 am (UTC)
OH BOY that is an interesting list! I will do my best on one of them!

In return?!?! Um... Um... Shoot.

How about TINTIN! He is my favourite character in everything! (Or any character from the Tintin world, really. IF THAT WORKS.)
20th-Mar-2010 06:26 pm (UTC)
That's what I keep SAYING. You ARE too hard on yourself. You've got more than 5 requests already so forget me rackets. I just want to see your comic so you can always secretly dedicate a panel to me haha. It can be one where a woman is bitching and doing laundry.

PS: What do you mean miss being a troll scholar? Was it more fun than what you're up to now?
22nd-Mar-2010 03:23 am (UTC)
Not necessarily more fun! I just like doing a lot of things and it's hard to do them all at once... I don't really have the time/resources/excuse to research and write sociological/anthropological investigations of my choosing these days! Without giving up something else important, that is. But it would be nice if I did. B-because it's fun!

Ah well. Another time.
21st-Mar-2010 11:52 pm (UTC)
What's your webcomic about/is anything posted yet/you doing a comic straight to paper only or a webcomic?

I've been DEVOURING webcomics lately :p There are not enough webcomics in this world.
22nd-Mar-2010 03:25 am (UTC)
Joe! Good to hear from you! What are you up to these days?

I'm gonna post it on the web! I want to get a little further along first before I start posting it so that I'm not one of those people who posts 3 pages and then stops, but I should start putting it up somewhere fairly soon. I hope! I'll let you know when that is. Potentially when classes end...

I read webcomics like crazy too... even though a lot of them frustrate/disappoint me in a lot of ways. There are still some really good ones out there! What have you been reading?
22nd-Mar-2010 05:01 am (UTC)
I am good. I am still at Queen's but now I am doing grad school in physics. And yourself? I gathered from LJ that you are working/studying some place in Toronto, but I could be very wrong. Yes, I still lurk these dark halls hoping to catch a glimpse of hope shimmering from the light of my friends (I'm pretty sure you're the only one that still posts semi-regularly from my friends). I will request a doodle as well (I will leave the character up to you), though I'd be the eighth person.

Keep me in the loop about when they go up!

Non-serial: xkcd, Penny Arcade, and PHD
Serial: Girl Genius, ShadowGirls, Blade Kitten and Angels 2200

That last one is INTENSE. Funny and lighthearted at times, and serious as hell at others. I blasted threw it to catch up this weekend and was on emotional roller coaster. Anyhow, I ramble. What have you been reading/recommend?
22nd-Mar-2010 05:19 am (UTC)
Physics grad school?! GEEZ. Congrats on that, that's intense!

I'm doing a post-BA certificate in publishing from Ryerson... I was an intern at Oxford U Press for a while, and right now I'm supporting myself with freelance work and taking courses here and there. Trying to figure things out!

I will doodle for you too! In fact I have already done doodles for 3 of the above people already but my computer is currently being a dick and won't talk to my scanner... hopefully will have it fixed SOON. And then DOODLES FOR ALL.

Oh Jesus, what don't I read is the better question...

Serial comics that I read... too many to name but the ones I currently enjoy the most:
Lackadaisy, The Phoenix Requiem, Octopus Pie, Something Positive, Questionable Content ... Those are the ones whose updates I look forward to the most.

Oh, I do read and enjoy two non-serial comics: Wondermark (fantastic) and Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal (hit or miss, but I find the hits are worth the misses).

What I am currently trial-reading to see if I'm really interested in them:
The Meek - The art is fantastic! Waiting to see where the story goes.
Dead Heaven - Same as above but more so. The art can be unbelievable but I'm not sure I like the writing. Plus the violence can reach uncomfortable levels (there's this one scene where someone gets his head stomped in for 9 panels... overkill?)

IS THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU (that's not even everything... sigh)
22nd-Mar-2010 04:46 pm (UTC)
I'm sure it sounds harder than it is, I definitely do not feel as smart as most of the people in the department :p Specifically I work with lasers; I shoot them at metals and blow holes in them. That always sounds cooler than it is.

Oxford U Press seems like an awesome place to intern! Were you just editing books and stuff? Publishing sounds so prestigious: "Yah, I work in publishing, what do you do? Oh, physics is in interesting I guess." See? QED. (Also, I've used 'sound' three times in this reply proving my ineptitude with the English language).

Link to Angels 2200. Check it out, the character Whiskey kinda reminds me of some of your characters actually (I don't know why). Thanks for the suggestions! I will probably go through them in ~ a month after which I will most likely ask for more :p
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